Today we are diving into what happens when full-time travel meets the desire to plant deep roots.

Joining me from Kamakura, Japan is Filippo Bozotti, an Italian-born changemaker who has lived in West African tents, run sustainable ecotourism hubs in Italy, and traveled the world with his young family. Now, after two years of living out of suitcases, he is launching Earthbound—a breathtaking, micro-education project in Southern Tuscany designed to bring worldschooling families back to nature.

We’re talking farm-to-table cooking, outdoor classrooms in a massive wildlife oasis, and what it really looks like to slow down. Plus, Filippo drops some incredible insights on catching Japan's changing seasons. You'll want to listen all the way to the end to catch his absolute best, hidden-gem food tip for Japan. Let's dive in!

Welcome to the Wonder Worldschool Podcast. I'm Suzy, a travel-loving money nerd, mom of two, and our family lives between Spain and Colorado and soon, Japan. On this show, we discuss the stories, logistics, and finances of traveling families and the many ways to learn along the way. Today we get to know Filippo Bozotti from Italy. I'm very excited to have you on the show. Please tell me more about you and your family, the project you're working on, and where you're calling in from today.

Filippo Bozotti

Thank you. Hi Suzy. Hi everybody. Thank you for having me. So, my name is Filippo. Italian. My wife, Maricella, is American, from Arizona, and we have two kids: Lilu, who's five, and Oliver, who is three. So, still young. We've been traveling full-time, worldschooling for two years now with Boundless Life, and we are developing a new project for outdoor education in Italy called Earthbound, launching next year, next March 2027. I am calling from Japan. I am here for three months with Boundless in Kamakura. Hello from Japan.

Suzy

And before I hit record, I was asking you all the questions about Japan because that's where we'll be this fall. So I appreciate all the insights from the experienced families that have been there before. And I am very excited to learn more about Earthbound. We are going to get to this project in a little bit, but I love that there are opportunities for families in Italy. But let's step back a little bit and get to know you, and understand where your love for travel started.

Filippo Bozotti

Sure. Look, I've been traveling all my life. I left Italy when I was, I think, eleven with my family. We come from a small town outside of Milan, and we were the only people who left. I lived in Lexington, Massachusetts. I lived in France. I lived in Switzerland. Then I went back to Boston for college. Then I lived in New York. Then I lived in Sierra Leone on a beach, on a deserted beach. I've had projects in Papua New Guinea, in Fiji, in Bali. So, I've been traveling all my life.

It's not so much the traveling aspect for me; it's the standing still that's the difficult part. When you start having kids, it's more difficult to travel like I used to travel. You know, I lived in a tent for a year in West Africa, but I can't do that with little ones.

We were living in Italy. I had an ecotourism company in Umbria, in the countryside. We sold that a couple of years ago. We had an apartment in Rome. My wife is a Pilates teacher, so she was teaching Pilates there. We sold the apartment in Rome, sold everything, and, you know, started traveling with Boundless just because with little kids, giving them an education and having an international community made sense. So, we're doing three months on, three months off. So, we're doing spring and fall with Boundless, and winter and summer in Italy, or in Switzerland with my family, or in Arizona with my wife's family.

Suzy

And we connected through a friend that did a Boundless cohort with you in the past. You've done the Sintra cohorts and Syros, correct? Of course, you mentioned that you do spend some time with family in different places. And then also I'm curious, what has Boundless been like for you as a family with kids on the younger end?

Filippo Bozotti

Yeah. Sintra, Syros, and Estepona. We're fortunate that, you know, we can spend three months in different locations around the world. So, my parents live in Switzerland, and we spend time in the Swiss Alps in the winter, which is incredible, and also in the summer. But after a few years of traveling like this—a base without, you know, basically living out of our suitcases for two years now—the one thing that we do miss is having a place where we can put our roots down. You know, after a couple of years of traveling, we're trying to solve that issue and be a little less transient. Although it's been great to be boundless, I guess now we want to be earthbound. And yeah, no pun intended in that. You know, Boundless has been great as far as the community aspect. They make it easy for you, and living in a place for three months, you're not on holiday there anymore. You're actually living there. You're experiencing it. Like, we have this beautiful house in Kamakura, right on the beach.

What we do want to do now, having learned from Boundless—you know, seeing what we like and what we don't like—we need outdoor education for our children, and I think a lot of families do. We want them to be more in nature. Boundless offers really cool locations, but they're all, you know, they've got a model, they're all in towns; it's different. And also, this thing of moving around all the time, after a while, it's becoming a bit too transient, and we would like to give the kids some more continuity both with friends and with teachers.

So, that's the direction we're moving towards. But we're adopting a lot of the things that work really well from Boundless, like the community aspect, the co-working, the co-living. Schengen, ninety days out of a hundred and eighty days, you know, those are all things that make a lot of sense.

Suzy

I think that that's a cool thing about being a traveling family, and then turning around and taking the knowledge that you've learned and the experiences you've had and creating an opportunity that fits well for your family, but also can create opportunities for other families to join. Because that's one thing I do love about worldschooling is that there are other families that want to participate in these opportunities. They want the slow travel, they want to be in a location longer, and they want to find community in those places. And so creating these opportunities, that's why I like highlighting them on this podcast. I'm always so impressed with what people are coming up with. One question though about Japan: did the cherry blossom season just happen? Is it happening now? Was it worth the hype?

Filippo Bozotti

It happened as soon as we got here, beginning of April. It was amazing, but it only lasts three days, three or four days. Is it worth coming, you know, doing a whole trip just to see the cherry blossoms? I don't know. We just happened to be here when it started and it was incredible, especially in Kamakura. Like, we went to see it in Tokyo and it was good, but then we saw it in Kamakura, and there's the main strip that leads to the main shrine. It's full of cherries and it was like a carpet of white petals. I mean, it was pretty fantastic. But you won't see it when you're here in September.

Suzy

That's beautiful. I have heard the leaves change beautifully. And so I'm excited for that. That's my favorite part about fall, so I'm happy I won't miss that.

Filippo Bozotti

Yeah. So actually, yeah. So the—I think they're Japanese maples, I want to say, like, you know, tiny maple leaves, and they're super beautiful. And I've seen pictures, but in September when they all change colors, it looks incredible. So that might actually even be better than the cherry blossom because it lasts longer. Yeah. Let me know.

Suzy

We'll see. I hope so. So, let's talk about your approach to education and languages. You are Italian-born and speak Italian. What other languages do you speak? You mentioned your wife is from the US. What does language look like for you and your family? And I know your kids are young, they're probably just picking up this, but I'm curious what your thought is around languages for your kids, especially as they get older.

Filippo Bozotti

Yeah, we speak a mix of Italglish at home, I would say, which is probably not the correct way of doing it, but my wife speaks to them in English. She speaks Italian, but my wife and I speak English to each other because we met in New York. Kids speak Italian, speak English, they're bilingual, but definitely their first language is English now since we left Italy. Before we left Italy, their main language was Italian; now it's English. I also speak French because I lived in France and Switzerland, and Spanish a little bit—it's a bit like Italian. I did like an intensive when I was in Estepona for three months. I mean, I see the benefits of growing up trilingual, so I want my kids to have, whether it's Italian, English, and Spanish, or French, or Greek, or what you know—three languages is good.

Suzy

I think it's great that they'll have the foundation with English and Italian, and then from there can add on based on their interests or whatever, you know, calls to them. You mentioned that you had the ecotourism company and you sold that; you sold the apartment in Rome to hit the road for your travels. Share with us a little about the financial and logistical side of that.

Filippo Bozotti

Yeah. So I had a company called Tribewanted, and we did ecotourism, like sustainable communities for ecotourism around the world, but like really off the beaten path. So we had a deserted island in Fiji, and another one in Papua New Guinea, and a deserted beach in Sierra Leone. So, I did that for ten years and it was an amazing lifestyle, living together with local communities. And then we had this 15th-century hamlet in Umbria that we retrofitted and we turned into a sustainable hub. We hosted 30 guests at a time and we were living self-sufficiently as far as food and energy and everything. So, that lifestyle I miss a ton. I don't miss the ecotourism part, the tourism aspect, after 10 years, but I miss the lifestyle. We did sell the company, yeah, in 2022, and, you know, sold a house in Rome, and now we've just been traveling with passive income. So, I invested the money in bonds and live off of that. My two main projects now are my five-year-old and three-year-old, and Earthbound. But Earthbound, you know, what we're doing is not-for-profit. It's just about a way of life, the kind of education that we want our children to have. That's the focus right now.

Suzy

I know you said you sold the company. Is there still an opportunity for people to visit this? Of course.

Filippo Bozotti

Yeah, it's not as good as it used to be when I was there. But I still have my horses there. I still go back. It's called Monestevole. It's on Lake Trasimeno. It's really beautiful, a stunning location. It's been taken over by a German group, so they're more catering for, you know, your family's German. So they, I think they do like courses, like yoga courses and osteopathy courses and stuff like that now.

Suzy

We were staying on the Amalfi coast and I just picked a hotel there that was honestly affordable—that's how I picked it—and it had a nice view. And I was like, it's also a German restaurant and hotel. Like, everyone else there was, I was like, okay. The weather in Germany is not the greatest, so they have to migrate south in order to get some sunshine.

Filippo Bozotti

Yeah, there's a ton of Germans. Also, my house in Rome was purchased by a German. Yeah.

Suzy

It sounds like, though, with your background in ecotourism and sustainable living, that that has been a launching point, I'm guessing, for what you're creating with Earthbound. Yeah.

Filippo Bozotti

Totally, totally. You know, one thing always leads to another. But I was working with the Green School in Bali for a few years through my ecotourism company. We had one project in Bali, in Ubud, at the Kul Kul Farm, which was the permaculture farm of the Green School. And then the Green School would take thirty students for a month to my location, Monestevole in Italy, over the summer to do a full immersion in Italian sustainable living. So, the experience that I had with the Green School in Umbria was the eureka moment for me. You know, it was kind of like, if all the kids in the world were like this, it'd be a different world. So I saw what education, alternative education done well, could do to kids. And I mean, these kids were with us for a month and then they were going to present at the Paris Climate Conference to world leaders—like that level. That's when I was inspired about alternative education, outdoor education, and project-based learning. We've been playing with this idea for a while and, you know, now that my oldest is five, it's now or never. I don't want to wait until she's ten to do something like this, you know.

Suzy

So share with us a little more about what Earthbound will look like. And then you mentioned some of the parts about alternative education that you really like, and I'm curious if you can pull out a little more about what you love about what you saw before and how you're incorporating that into Earthbound.

Filippo Bozotti

It's going to be a micro-education project. We're going to start with twelve to fifteen families, and it's going to be based in Southern Tuscany in a town called Capalbio, which is the southernmost tip of Tuscany, closest to Rome. So it's an hour and 15 minutes from Rome. So it's, you know, again from Boundless, we've learned that you want to be close to a big city and airport. But it's going to be in the countryside and the beach. I was fortunate; this friend of mine has this incredible property which is a thousand hectares, which is huge for Italy, and it's a WWF Oasis. So on it, he has lakes and flamingos and regenerative agriculture—that's kind of his main business. But they have a glamping site with sixty bungalows, really beautiful, and then they have twenty-seven villas on this property. We are renting twelve to fifteen of the bungalows. They're two-bedroom, two-bathrooms right on the beach. Everybody's got their own space, but we're all in the same location, immersed in nature, right on the beach. A few pools, a spa, bistros, restaurants.

And then we have a villa where we will be doing the school. And again, the whole point is that the classroom is everywhere. So we have the villa, which we can probably fit up to thirty-five or forty students, but the whole point is that the classroom is everywhere, right?

Another good friend of mine is the lead alternative educator in Italy. He started twenty-seven forest schools in Italy. So he's got a lot of contacts and he's going to be the principal of the school. His name is Danilo, and he has put together a great team of educators, mostly Waldorf-based educators. But it's going to be bilingual, so it's going to be English and Italian. So everybody obviously is fluent in both. Probably throw some Spanish in there as well since we have a Spanish educator. It's going to be for ages four to eleven, mixed-age classes, super small groups—like a six-to-one student-teacher ratio—and the curriculum is going to be very much tailored for every child because it's so small and because we have the time to do it. We wanted to make sure that it was done exactly how we wanted to do it because it's not something that we want to grow into a business. I don't want to compete with Boundless; we're not looking to have ten locations around the world. We just want to have one location where we put our roots down for six months of the year. So we're doing spring and fall, twelve weeks on, twelve weeks off. That's for the Schengen reason, but also, you know, the location is a tourism location, so they're giving us the shoulder seasons. We couldn't be there for the summer, for example, because that's the high season. And in the winter, to be honest, we prefer to be somewhere else, whether it's the mountains or wherever. There is also a likely possibility that a bunch of the families in the winter will do a pop-up for a few months somewhere else and take some of the teachers with them.

Suzy

This is so great. And so you're thinking about people and their travel schedules perhaps, trying to pick a location that is beautiful during the shoulder season. And I've really thought about this a lot recently as we're getting into the summer, how much I love being places before the high season. And actually, this summer we have zero plans to travel over the summer. We're going to be taking advantage of other people traveling by doing house sitting. And I'm happy to take the summer off because it means that we get to take advantage of travel when it's not everyone else out there. What does a day look like? I know the program will launch next year, but what do you envision for a day at the Earthbound education center or for the families that are participating?

Filippo Bozotti

All right, we have a van service because it's all on the same property, but it's so big that, you know, it's a beautiful private road in the middle of the property, but it's ten kilometers away. So they get picked up at the glamping site and they're in school, I think, from nine till three-thirty. We have four educators. We have a local cook who is going to be making farm-to-table food. The kids will participate in the cooking activities—making pasta, making pizza. We'll have permaculture gardens and a few animals, so, you know, the kids will get their hands dirty doing that as well. We'll also have an outdoor kind of builder-educator. She will help build, I don't know, tree houses with the kids or, you know, whatever it is they decide to build. So we have the opportunity to do all of that, plus we are five hundred meters from the beach. We're in nature; there are just fields, forests, and wild beaches in front of us. So the whole point is that it's not just about outdoor education like you're reading a book outside; it's that the classroom is everywhere, right? So it's doing a project, and within that project, you're learning a little bit about everything.

But we do want to make sure that the academics are superior. So, you know, we've hired high-quality educators and we're paying them more than most schools do in Italy just because we want to invest in the educators that we're giving to our children. As far as the families go, there's a ton of activities that one can do, from sailing to biking. I mean, the great thing about Capalbio is that you've got the countryside behind you and the sea in front of you, so you get the best of both worlds, right? Like, I like horse riding; I'm going to take my horses there. It's an incredible place to bike. You know, you can do the wine harvest, the olive harvest. And then on the other side, you have the beach, so obviously beach life, sailing, island hopping. There's a beautiful archipelago there, a beautiful peninsula called Argentario. And then you're an hour and fifteen minutes from Rome, so you can jump on a train and go to Rome for the day.

You do need a car. We're providing a van to take the kids to school, but you need a car to go to the farmer's market, or the supermarket, or the pharmacy, or whatever. The closest towns are ten minutes away. Capalbio is a beautiful medieval town perched on top of a hill, and then there is Orbetello, which is like a coastal town, also super beautiful. I mean, you're in Siena in less than an hour. You're in Montalcino where they make Brunello in less than an hour. Saturnia, which is like the most famous spa town, is right there. So there's a ton, a ton of stuff to do. But the great thing is that we're all going to be living next to each other, right? So what I envision is a lot of us hanging out at the bistro. We have a co-working space there, kids running around on the property, we have a pool—like a shared pool all together. So, the kids can literally walk from one bungalow to the next.

Suzy

And you bring up a good point that there is—okay, I love to be places where I don't need a car. It is lovely to have public transit and things out your front door. However, there's usually a trade-off with the outdoor, the nature aspect of that. And sometimes if you really want to be out in nature, you are not going to have as well-connected public transit. But there's also hidden gems in all these different towns and cities where, you know, you can access those much easier with a car. So it's sometimes nice to be in a place where I can have the city life, the culture, and public transit, but I love mixing it up with going to very rural, outdoor nature places where, you know, you just need a car to really see what's there. And that's okay too, to have that balance.

Filippo Bozotti

Yeah, and we really kind of wanted to have a bit of both. That's why we wanted to find a place that was so close to Rome, not just for the ease of going to the airport, but just, you know, going into a beautiful big city if you want to get that fix while the kids are in school. Also, you have a car but you don't need to drive every day. Maybe a couple of families can share one car, you know? It doesn't have to be one car per family. To us, outdoor education is so important and being in nature is so important—like getting your hands dirty. Like, you know, my kids are already loving gardening and collecting eggs from the chickens, and horses and all of that, and I don't want them to lose that. I want to create the world that, you know, is like the dream world for them. That's what we're trying to do.

Suzy

I looked up the WWF Oasis, which means it's part of the World Wildlife Fund to safeguard biodiversity, local ecosystems, and endangered species. So that will be your backyard for Earthbound, which is an amazing opportunity, like you said, to really connect with nature and those opportunities there. When does the first cohort kick off next year?

Filippo Bozotti

It kicks off on March 6, 2027, for twelve weeks, so until the end of May. And then the second cohort is early September until early December. What we're asking people is to commit to two cohorts, for that same reason of having continuity with the teachers and with the friends, which is something that we've been struggling with a bit after a couple of years.

Suzy

And where can people find out more information about Earthbound?

Filippo Bozotti

So, earthbound.living is the website, and you can shoot me an email directly from the website and then we can set up a call with me and with Danilo, the school principal, and then we'll take it from there. We're starting to take deposits this summer. It's not cheap. It's cheaper than Boundless, but it's not cheap. I'm paying just as much as everybody else; I am one of the families. Terre di Sacra is the location that is hosting us. We're paying directly to Terre di Sacra for the bungalow, which is four thousand euros a month, and then the co-working space is 900 euros per family, and that includes all the concierge service that Terre di Sacra is giving us. And then the school fees are fifteen hundred euros per child. So a family of four is seventy-nine hundred a month, but for, you know, six months of the year.

Suzy

And I'm looking at the photos. The gallery is amazing. Photos of the pool, the resort, the beach, the outdoor space—it looks very lovely. So I'll make sure to link all that in the show notes. Let's also touch on the challenges and the wins, and maybe your challenge is one reason that you have started to work on creating Earthbound, or if there are any other things that have come up for you, any other struggles as a traveling family. Then we'll touch on the wins as well.

Filippo Bozotti

I mean, the challenges—the challenges are living out of a suitcase. It's great at the beginning, but after a while, it starts to be a bit of a challenge, at least for us, maybe not for everybody. And then to be honest, the biggest challenge with Boundless for us is not having outdoor space. That might work for some families, but it doesn't work for us. So it was fine for a few years, but we need more, and that's why we're doing what we're doing.

The reason we're doing it—I really didn't want to do this. Like, I wanted to find something because I know what it takes to start a project in Italy like this. You know, it's been two years in the making; I've been thinking about it, and finally, it was like it's now or never and it's kind of, "if not me, who?" You know, I still don't know what I don't know. It hasn't started yet. I still don't know if it will be successful. We need twelve families to make it work financially. Again, it's not-for-profit, but it needs to stand on its own two feet financially, and we're not nickeling-and-diming as far as the location and the teachers.

The biggest challenge there for us was we didn't find this kind of project anywhere in Europe. There is the Green School in Bali, but we didn't want to live in Bali. There is a Green School in New Zealand, in South Africa. There are some cool outdoor education projects like in Andalusia, but it's in weird towns like Sotogrande—like, super artificial. So we really didn't find something that was a good fit for us, and we really wanted to be in Italy because I'm Italian and I don't want my kids to lose the Italian culture. So yeah, to me, this is kind of an idyllic location, the best of both worlds. You know, if we can make it happen and do it successfully, then it's a dream.

Suzy

I love that you're putting it out there so that people who are in those shoes, who are like, "this is what I want, I want the nature, I want Italy," they are going to be super excited that you're putting all this effort in.

Filippo Bozotti

Thank you.

Suzy

Let's highlight any wins that you've experienced as a traveling family.

Filippo Bozotti

I mean, as a traveling family, it's been an incredible experience. I would do it all over again. You know, I am super happy we had these incredible life experiences, both for us—Maricella and I—and for the kids. You know, how amazing to live in Japan for three months? I mean, you can tell that story forever, you know? The cultural immersion for the kids at this young age is really turning them into world citizens, regardless of the quality of the education that they're getting at this age or whether or not it's outdoor education.

I would say the best thing about it is the community aspect—like the incredible amount of like-minded international families that we're meeting. It's one of the reasons we left Italy; we didn't have this. We had a beautiful place in the countryside in Umbria, but there's no international community to speak of, you know, and so that's not where I want my kids to grow up. And also for my wife, she's American, you know, she wanted an international community. Worldschooling has really given us that. That aspect is priceless, and now we have a network of like-minded families all over the world.

Suzy

Yeah, and hopefully some will join you in Italy next year. So, got to keep spreading the word. Let's wrap up with a lightning round. I'm curious, what is the best or worst food that you've ever tried?

Filippo Bozotti

Well, here in Japan, I had this incredible sushi. I'm going to tell it to you now because you're coming here, so it's called Sushi Masa. It's a tiny hole-in-the-wall—just counters, no tables—and the guy just makes the most incredible sushi right in front of you. So, do go to that.

Worst food? I've had some weird food in Africa. Like, one time they brought us a headless python with a half-digested deer inside its belly. That was not pleasant. But also really good food in Sierra Leone, so yeah, it's a mix of everything. Yeah.

Suzy

Yes. You get to see what different cultures eat, you know, and choose to try it or not. What is the first thing you do when you arrive somewhere new?

Filippo Bozotti

Explore. I always want to know, like, what does the lay of the land look like here, you know? Like, what's where? What's around the corner? So, like, walk around for three days.

Suzy

Yeah, just get out. I like that advice. And if you could teleport to one place right now, where would it be?

Filippo Bozotti

Galapagos. It's on my bucket list.

Suzy

And it's hard to get to, perhaps, so if you could teleport there, it would be a much easier way to get there. We did a "would you rather" at dinner this weekend, and it was: would you rather be able to teleport or would you rather be able to time travel? I was a little torn on that one. Like, my whole family had this long discussion over which one we would choose. Which one would you choose? Teleport or time travel?

Filippo Bozotti

What did you choose?

Suzy

I said teleport because I would love to see more of the world right now, but I am very curious about time travel. Like, just to go back and travel around a hundred years ago but not have to stay put, or to see what the future looks like so I don't worry about the future so much for my children.

Filippo Bozotti

I'd say time travel. The Earth is small enough that you can see all of it if you want in your lifetime, but time travel... Although I have to say, like, I used to have this thing that I have to see every single country in the world. Now that I'm getting older and wiser, I'm like, you know what? Now when we go to a place, it's got to be for a few months. Like, I don't like to do five days anymore somewhere with kids. But also, environmentally, it's a nightmare to do something like that, and it's not about doing two hundred countries, but it's doing a hundred countries well.

Suzy

Absolutely. I love the concept of slow travel, and opportunities like Earthbound will give people a chance to really immerse themselves for three months back-to-back, six months in one location. I'm going to make sure to link everything about Earthbound in the show notes so that people can check it out. I'll put the dates in there. Are there other things that you want me to add on?

Filippo Bozotti

If you want to share the location, it's called Terre di Sacra.

Suzy

I've been looking at the website and these villas, the cottages, the resorts, the glamping—it looks amazing. So, great location. Proximity to Rome, but also to be away from a big city would be a perfect combination.

Filippo Bozotti

Yeah, and also away from mass tourism, because it's not a mass tourism kind of place. One of the other great things about doing three months on, three months off is that you really get to experience it in different times. Because you're coming to Japan in September, you don't get to see the cherry blossom, you know? Like, if you go to Italy in March or April or May, you don't get to do the wine harvest or the olive harvest. So if you're spending six months there, you're ticking a lot of the boxes that each season has to offer.

Suzy

Absolutely, and you can really connect the seasons to the nature and see that transition through to be able to connect that.

Filippo Bozotti

And that's part of the education process as well, right? Especially Waldorf education—it's about seasonality, right? It takes its time. You know, a plant takes however long it takes to grow, right? If you're only there for three months, you can plant it but you don't get to harvest it there, right? So having that come full circle is really important for us.

Suzy

And I've thought about that with my kids—is understanding the seasonality of food as well. Because when we shop at grocery stores, you can have strawberries year-round, perhaps. But we know that they're much better when it's in season. So it's nice to tune into that seasonality of food as well as weather and nature and outdoor spaces. Absolutely. Well, this has been delightful to learn more about Earthbound. I can't wait to share this so people can go into the website, check it out, and join you guys next year. I'm glad that you're early enough that you can really tap into those families that are planning for next year. I'm a bit of a planner, so I'm already thinking about next year and I know other people are too. So we'll make sure that they can check out all the opportunities. And this has been so great to chat. Thank you so much.

Filippo Bozotti

Thank you, Suzy. Bye guys.